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	<title>Comments on: APEX 4.0 &#8211; First Impressions</title>
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	<description>My meandering thoughts about Oracle, Application Express and life in general</description>
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		<title>By: John Scott</title>
		<link>http://jes.blogs.shellprompt.net/2009/12/20/apex-40-first-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-511295</link>
		<dc:creator>John Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 07:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,

Are you not hitting Bug 9893380 in the Known Issues list (http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/application_express/html/4.0_known_issues.html)?

John.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>Are you not hitting Bug 9893380 in the Known Issues list (<a href="http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/application_express/html/4.0_known_issues.html)?" rel="nofollow">http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/application_express/html/4.0_known_issues.html)?</a></p>
<p>John.</p>
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		<title>By: foggiato Mike</title>
		<link>http://jes.blogs.shellprompt.net/2009/12/20/apex-40-first-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-511282</link>
		<dc:creator>foggiato Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 02:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Training on news features on Apex4.0 ?

When ?
costs?

My favorite dates:  october 2010-november2010-december2010.

MFOConsulting</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Training on news features on Apex4.0 ?</p>
<p>When ?<br />
costs?</p>
<p>My favorite dates:  october 2010-november2010-december2010.</p>
<p>MFOConsulting</p>
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		<title>By: foggiato Mike</title>
		<link>http://jes.blogs.shellprompt.net/2009/12/20/apex-40-first-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-511281</link>
		<dc:creator>foggiato Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 02:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi John,

I mean : login on OTN  web site and look about posts for user:    user12448751 

mfo
L  button..
Seems that the theme (RED-1) has theses issues.

any comments</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John,</p>
<p>I mean : login on OTN  web site and look about posts for user:    user12448751 </p>
<p>mfo<br />
L  button..<br />
Seems that the theme (RED-1) has theses issues.</p>
<p>any comments</p>
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		<title>By: John Scott</title>
		<link>http://jes.blogs.shellprompt.net/2009/12/20/apex-40-first-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-511166</link>
		<dc:creator>John Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,

Not sure what you mean by &#039;see OTN user12448751&#039;, can you elaborate?

John.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>Not sure what you mean by &#8216;see OTN user12448751&#8242;, can you elaborate?</p>
<p>John.</p>
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		<title>By: mike foggiato</title>
		<link>http://jes.blogs.shellprompt.net/2009/12/20/apex-40-first-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-511090</link>
		<dc:creator>mike foggiato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 05:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I&#039;m a little bit dissapointed that the release 4.0.00.46 has issues with TABLAR FORMS see OTN   user12448751   and post any comment.

MFOConsultingt gva-lug ch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a little bit dissapointed that the release 4.0.00.46 has issues with TABLAR FORMS see OTN   user12448751   and post any comment.</p>
<p>MFOConsultingt gva-lug ch</p>
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		<title>By: Bara George</title>
		<link>http://jes.blogs.shellprompt.net/2009/12/20/apex-40-first-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-480595</link>
		<dc:creator>Bara George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 15:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a little dissapointed with Apex 4.0 because of an error from the previous versions that was not fixed. It’s the limit of 30k from the text input items. I know there is a workaround for this error (using Ajax, as I remember), but I commonly get this error when trying to edit a Report Layout. I design complex layouts in XSL-FO (I even developed an APEX application that helps me design layouts) and I frequently get the error when uploading layout bigger than 30k. I haven’t found a workaround for this and it limits the PDF printing in APEX very much…

Regards,
George</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a little dissapointed with Apex 4.0 because of an error from the previous versions that was not fixed. It’s the limit of 30k from the text input items. I know there is a workaround for this error (using Ajax, as I remember), but I commonly get this error when trying to edit a Report Layout. I design complex layouts in XSL-FO (I even developed an APEX application that helps me design layouts) and I frequently get the error when uploading layout bigger than 30k. I haven’t found a workaround for this and it limits the PDF printing in APEX very much…</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
George</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
		<link>http://jes.blogs.shellprompt.net/2009/12/20/apex-40-first-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-478370</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately much of the new features are related with the interface. Very important should have been the posibility to make easy MASTER- DETAIL- DETAIL-DETAIL---- formulars and have posiblöity to change items and SAVE THEM ALL once. Much like was in Microsoft ACCESS. simple to define formulars and subformulars... link them and have one button to save them all. I think that simple but essential functionality is not easy possible with APEX even version 4. Personally i don&#039;t have not so much interest in features like &quot;interactive regions&quot;. I want simple to make details link them and present.. and making a simple report based on table with BLOB columns is a nightmare. i think that this simple but powerful functionality should be the priority for the development team....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately much of the new features are related with the interface. Very important should have been the posibility to make easy MASTER- DETAIL- DETAIL-DETAIL&#8212;- formulars and have posiblöity to change items and SAVE THEM ALL once. Much like was in Microsoft ACCESS. simple to define formulars and subformulars&#8230; link them and have one button to save them all. I think that simple but essential functionality is not easy possible with APEX even version 4. Personally i don&#8217;t have not so much interest in features like &#8220;interactive regions&#8221;. I want simple to make details link them and present.. and making a simple report based on table with BLOB columns is a nightmare. i think that this simple but powerful functionality should be the priority for the development team&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Stew</title>
		<link>http://jes.blogs.shellprompt.net/2009/12/20/apex-40-first-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-471943</link>
		<dc:creator>Stew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say that I like this new interface mode too, so far.  I played for a couple hours and found I adapted very quickly.  The right-click to get at most of it was okay, not spectacular.  But the mouse-over pop-up context info is great, as is drag-n-drop reordering of objects.

I&#039;ve found a number of minor features that are either broken or not completely implemented, mostly in the new Team Development section, which I&#039;d expect.  I entered lots of Enhancement Requests there.

Overall I&#039;m very pleased.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say that I like this new interface mode too, so far.  I played for a couple hours and found I adapted very quickly.  The right-click to get at most of it was okay, not spectacular.  But the mouse-over pop-up context info is great, as is drag-n-drop reordering of objects.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve found a number of minor features that are either broken or not completely implemented, mostly in the new Team Development section, which I&#8217;d expect.  I entered lots of Enhancement Requests there.</p>
<p>Overall I&#8217;m very pleased.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Wolf</title>
		<link>http://jes.blogs.shellprompt.net/2009/12/20/apex-40-first-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-471882</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi John,

yes you said that to me. :-) It&#039;s great to hear that you really like it!

Regards
Patrick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John,</p>
<p>yes you said that to me. :-) It&#8217;s great to hear that you really like it!</p>
<p>Regards<br />
Patrick</p>
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